CBF Podcast: A Conversation with Ruth Haley Barton

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By Andy Hale

Americans are the most overworked developed nation in the world. We tend to work 137 more hours annually with less time off than our British counterparts. Let’s not even get started on the average French worker getting one month of paid vacation. (Reference: Center for American Progress Study)

For the church, this is a tremendous spiritual conversation about rest and self-care. However, how do clergy start this conversation when they themselves run a high risk of depression and burnout?

There is a recurring collision between the burnout rates of ministers and church closures that must raise some difficult questions.

The church and ministers are, for the most part, equally at fault for the alarmingly poor mental, physical and vocational health of ministers.

More often than not, ministers and the church have bought into the cultural norm that busyness leads to success. The result is a double undue pressure from the church and self to be and to do more.

We sat down with Ruth Haley Barton to discuss an intentional path for congregations and ministers to take for caring for their ministers. Barton is writer, spiritual director, teacher, retreat leader and founder of the Transforming Center.

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CBF’s podcast shares stories from across the Fellowship and innovative practices of those working to renew God’s world. The vision is to share ideas, stories, and innovations from ministers, authors, and practitioner

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This podcast episode is brought to you by Fuller Seminary and The Center for Congregational Health.

Andy Hale created and hosts the podcast of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. Hale is the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, following eight years as the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton and five years as CBF’s church start specialist. Follow on Twitter @haleandy

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