By Andy Hale

“I can’t even imagine pastoring a church throughout this crisis,” a church member said to me over the phone last week.

“Well,” I responded, “I did take a class in seminary on leading through a global pandemic.”

What prepares us to lead in moments of crisis? What knowledge do we need to obtain, or what experiences do we need to endure to lead well?

These are just some of the questions we discussed with Tod Bolsinger, acclaimed author of Canoeing the Mountain and Fuller Seminary’s Senior Congregational Strategist and Associate Professor of Leadership Formation.

“Leadership, therefore, is always about the transformation and growth of a people—starting with the leader-to develop the resilience and adaptive capacity to wisely cut-through resistance and accomplish the mission of the group,” said Bolsinger on the CBF Podcast.

The author has a new book out, Tempered Resilience: How Leaders Are Formed in the Crucible of Change.

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Andy Hale is the creator and host of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship Podcast. Hale is the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, following eight years as the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton and five years as CBF’s church start specialist. Follow on Twitter @haleandy