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The Flag and The Cross, Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry

Words matter. They really, really do. 

A couple of years back, French President, Emmanuel Macron, was on a dignitary trip to Australia, meeting with the country’s Prime Minister. President Emmanuel began to thank Turnbull and his wife in a public address, saying, “Prime Minister Turnbull, I just want to thank you and your delicious wife for your warm welcome.”

That’s right, you heard me correctly. The French President called the Australian Prime Minister’s wife “delicious.” The French word for delicious — delicieux — also translates as “delightful.”

As uncomfortable as the conversation, we need to use the right words to discuss White Christian Nationalism. For many, this is a new term that has come into their vernacular over the last couple of years. 

“We define white Christian nationalism and identify white Christian nationalists using a constellation of beliefs. These are beliefs that, we argue, reflect a desire to restore and privilege the myths, values, identity, and authority of a particular ethnocultural tribe. These beliefs add up to a political vision that privileges that tribe,” said Philip Gorski and Samuel Perry on the CBF Podcast Conversation. 

Gorski is the chair of the sociology department at Yale University, while Perry is an associate professor of sociology at the University of Oklahoma. They have co-authored a new book, “The Flag and The Cross,” an examination of what White Christian Nationalism is and why it is a threat to American Democracy. 

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Andy Hale is the creator and host of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship Podcast. Hale is the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, following eight years as the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton and five years as CBF’s church start specialist. Follow on Twitter @haleandy

One thought on “The Flag and The Cross, Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry

  1. Ask the Japanese if they think Japan ought to remain Japanese — or the Mexicans if they want their country to be overrun by gringos — or Liberians if Liberia ought to remain black African (actually per the Liberian Constitution, Whites are prohibited from becoming citizens of Liberia; look it up) — etc etc.

    It’s perfectly natural for Whites in America to want the United States to remain essentially a white, Christian nation, especially now that it’s clear ‘diversity’ has reached the physical elimination phase with the removal of monuments, statues, etc — yet here is it portrayed as some kind of dangerous radicalism, a ‘threat to American Democracy’ — as I recall, democracy worked just fine in the US when the US had a white super majority, which perhaps one can regard as a kind of white Christian nationalism — so from what I see, it is ‘diversity’ that is the threat to national cohesion in America.

    What is completely unnatural, and absolutely unprecedented in the era of modern nation states, is for a nation to allow its demographic heritage to be completely destroyed.

    Only white people are foolish enough to practice this kind of slow motion, masochistic ethnic suicide — only Whites are expected to relinquish their homelands.

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