It’s been over two years since the insurrection on January 6, 2021. A day sociologists and psychologists can point to as the natural outcome of pushing and shoving incendiary political rhetoric down the throat of people already on edge due to political demagoguery.

Was this the dying gasp of a failing movement or the next phase of a new chapter of this kind of ideology?

“The events of January 6 shocked the nation and the world. But to those who lived through White Christian nationalism, consumed its media, and practiced its teachings, the Insurrection was the logical outcome of a seventy-five-year war on American democracy,” said Dr. Brad Onishi on the CBF Podcast Conversation.

We sat down with the scholar of philosophy, theology, and American religion, focusing on Christian nationalism and secularism, at the University of San Francisco. According to Onishi, we need to recognize that January 6^th was not the last stand of a dying faction but the first violent battle in what White Christian Nationalists foresee as the coming civil war.

Onishi is the author of Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism–and What Comes Next and the host of the Straight White American Jesus Podcast. He has also contributed to NPR and The New York Times.

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