Long before chattel slavery dominated the American South, human subjugation had been perfected by the Spanish conquest of the Mississippi Delta. The Conquistadors’ colonization, displacement, and enslavement of the Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Creek laid the foundation for the later formation of chattel slavery, post-war terrorism by the KKK, the migration of Black Americas to places like Chicago, and the continuation of the most racist region in the country.

Reexamining our past brings a clearer picture of our present, especially for those who are inheritors of inequality. Our past shapes our present identity. And as it so has often done in the past, identity, rather than policy, drives division

“This moment of reckoning with our fraught and contested heritage is spawning new practices of remember: reckoning with mistakes made, commemorating victims forgotten, and imagining paths not taken. It also generates a visceral, sometimes violent, resistance,” urged Robert P. Jones on the CBF Podcast Conversation.  

We sat down with the president and founder of the Public Religion Research Institute to discuss his new book, The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy. Jones has previously appeared on the Podcast, discussing his book White Too Long and a conversation on “How QAnon and Christian Nationalism are Affecting the Church.”

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Andy Hale is the creator and host of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship Podcast. Hale is the Associate Executive Coordinator of CBF North Carolina. He’s also served as CBF’s Church Start Specialist, the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton, and the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge. Follow on Twitter @haleandy.