During the General Assembly this summer, we were scheduled to sit down with New York Times best-selling author Jemar Tisby on the day the Supreme Court struck down Affirmative Action, effectively ending race-conscious admissions.

“As a black man observing the events from afar, I had to question my status in America’s version of Christianity. This nation continually invents new ways to remind black people that racism is still the American way,” said Dr. Tisby.

Check out our latest interview with Jemar as we explore systemic racism within higher education, the progress of racial equality in the US, and the young reader’s edition of his book, How to Fight Racism.

Jemar is a public historian and professor at Simmons College of Kentucky, authoring several best-selling books, including The Color of Compromise and How to Find Racism.

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Andy Hale is the creator and host of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship Podcast. Hale is the Associate Executive Coordinator of CBF North Carolina. He’s also served as CBF’s Church Start Specialist, the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton, and the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge. Follow on Twitter @haleandy.