CBF Podcast: A Conversation with Susan Sparks

Podcast Logo-Rectangle

By Andy Hale

The great philosopher George Carlin once said, “There’s a humorous side to every situation. The challenge is to find it.”

Have you ever wondered if the Church has a hard time finding its funny side?

Don’t get me wrong, we are about God’s serious business. There are always injustices to stand against, spiritual disciplines to engage, pastoral care to give to the sick and dying, the work of transforming God’s world.

Henry Ward Beecher wrote, “A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It’s jolted by every pebble on the road.” Could you find a better description of church that combats over what too often feels like every theological matter, business decision and next step?

We sat down with Susan Sparks, the comedian, former lawyer, author and senior pastor, to discuss humor and the church.

“Our places of worship have gotten too caught up in self-importance and solemnity, the idea that we have to be serious in church to be serious about church,” said Sparks. “Why can’t we encourage people to laugh in church?”

Susan is the senior pastor of Madison Avenue Baptist Church in New York City, who has appeared on CNN, ABC News, The Today Show, and now, the CBF Podcast.

Subscribe or Livestream

CBF’s podcast shares stories from across the Fellowship and innovative practices of those working to renew God’s world. The vision is to share ideas, stories, and innovations from ministers, authors, and practitioners.

Join this bi-weekly audio podcast by subscribing in iTunes or in SoundCloud.


This podcast episode is brought to you by Fuller Seminary, The Center for Congregational Health, and Smyth & Helwys Publishing.

Andy Hale created and hosts the podcast of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. Hale is the senior pastor of University Baptist Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, following eight years as the founding pastor of Mosaic Church of Clayton and five years as CBF’s church start specialist. Follow on Twitter @haleandy

One thought on “CBF Podcast: A Conversation with Susan Sparks

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s